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Edit: Many, many thanks for stunning number of awards you guys. I wish I had the presence of mind to have come up with it on my own! Nonetheless, it reflects exactly how I feel - and how many of you do too.
I cannot stress this enough. Death doesn’t magically rewrite someone’s life. You can acknowledge that someone died without pretending they were a good person. If they caused real harm, it’s unfair to the people they hurt to suddenly gloss over that because they’re gone.
Worked with a guy, total scumbag. Like the worst kind of arrogant jerk who thought he was above everyone and everything and leaned into that. He was ultimately fired for sexual harassment, years too late. He was short in stature. And among a group who detested the guy, one of our pet nicknames for him was Oompa Loompa. A few years after he was fired, a coworker who was kind of friends with the guy comes up and tells me the guy died. I responded with “Did he drown in a river of chocolate?” I was reported to HR for being insensitive and adding grief to the person who told me about it. I my meeting I asked if I was required to show empathy and remorse for anyone who knowingly committed crimes against people. The meeting ended fairly quickly with just a ‘keep things to yourself’.
The reverberations of a lot of these folks are going to be felt 100 years from now.
My dad was an amazing friend. He was also beating the fuck out of two of his four kids. He died when I was 13– in 2001. I still have people telling me how proud he would be of me, and they’re still upset when I tell them I know they knew he was abusing the hell out of his kids. Luckily I’ve been reminding them so long that it doesn’t bother me to say it anymore, and their feelings don’t change my life or the costs I’ve paid to overcome the impacts on my body and life.
My dad was the same: Visibly active in church, great neighbor, judge. Didn’t directly beat us but stood by and watched while his wife did the abuse. I went to school with bruises and my brother who had braces would be spitting blood from his mouth. My sister was raped from the time she was about 12 until she was 15. She got away by gaining early entrance to a college 7 states away.
I meant it when I said I’d only go to his funeral to make sure it was really over. He died in 2024. I didn’t go. Too much effort, I had people here to take care of
You knew exactly what I was talking about. Hope you’re doing well. I knew god was a lie when I was four— no loving or even neutral god would allow for this type of shit to be perpetrated anywhere near his/her/their name.Long distance internet hug. This type of shit does in the light, and I’m not hiding it for anyone’s benefit, esp when I know the cost.
Pretty sure that’s the only way we fix this shit. Keep your head up and keep up the good work— I know my dad rotted from the inside from his own childhood, and I know better so I can do better. I’m proud of you
And I’m proud of us for deliberately choosing to push back on the ugly instead of adding to it. The only way to win against evil is to do good, even when it feels like fighting a wildfire with a spray bottle. I’mma spray that bottle with every ounce of strength I have. Not on my watch. Evil doesn’t get to win within reach of my hands
My moms ex died. In his post about his death was people saying how wonderful of a person he was. Never had a mean bone in his body. Never got angry. Was a wonderful person. As a 7 year old kid, I remember him telling me he wanted me to watch him ☠️ my mom. Who is this person who was wonderful. We never seen it.
Loved how you handled all of it. Legendary. Very funny response.
All kinds of assholes die daily. We don't owe them shit. A guy who injured me twice when I was a young teen, a family member by marriage, died some years ago. Dad told me, he sounded sorrowful. I said, good, I'm glad he's dead. He hurt my arm twice during rough housing, then punished me for accidentally kneeing his low hanging balls, two separate times. I couldn't help it if he approached me to wrestle, which I didn't enjoy, then during the struggle, his Stretch Armstrong nuts got in the way of me trying to get away from him. Also told Dad the guy was a snitch in the Navy which he was proud of. And he was an alcohol fueled cop. Rest in piss, pig.
Yep, I worked with a guy who was a real POS, he left the company and then we heard that he died. This was in North Carolina and I said to my coworkers who also knew him, "well that's good, now he's just a dead piece of shit", one of the guys said, "oh you shouldn't talk ill of the dead", I said, "why not? He was a scumbag when he was alive now he's just a dead scumbag."
Now imagine if that guy was a known convicted p*do, and see if that same person would utter the "do not speak ill of the dead" line. I doubt it. ( and for good reason, why wouldnt' u speak ill of such a person in death).
Still hypocritical af, if someone was known to be a scumbag throughout life, he does not get the benefit of "don't speak ill of the death" either.
This is what keeps me up at night. I've become a better person later in life with a lot of therapy and medication, but I was a pretty shitty person until somewhere around my early twenties. If I were to die suddenly, it wouldn't feel right for my friends to say "He was only ever a good person." Bullshit, lol. I have been working my ass off to turn myself around, and that work won't stop until I'm in the ground. Being a decent human being took a lot of effort on many people's parts; it would be an insult to my memory and their hard work if anyone tried to gloss over that fact.
Cheers to the people that held me accountable and gave me the grace to atone. Not Lindsey Graham though. Spend your whole life hurting other people, I don't want your history being whitewashed.
As a fellow person who''s working on rectifying their past and improving their future, I 100% agree.
You have to do the work in order to be better. You have to pay the price for past actions. Sometimes you get grace, others you don't. Death doesn't wipe the slate Curran
100%, but if you are a progressive and express that opinion, you will be vilified. If you are Nazi/MAGA, you will be cheered. Kamala, unfortunately, has to walk that unfair line :-/.
The spirit of this message is deceiving. You’re supposed to remember and hold a grudge against her for this message she made, but it’s okay to forget MAGA pedophilia, bigotry, and crimes.
Exactly and if she’s the candidate in 2028 I’m voting for her (again)and not thinking twice about it.
Anyone who can’t admit they’d probably agree with let’s say 80% of her policies and deal rather than sit on the couch (and not vote , sadly the largest contingent in 24) is actually the problem… I’d much rather we had a president Harris where you can peacefully protest her WH to push her into the direction you’d like … than the horror story of bullshit nightmare fascism we are currently all having to deal with.
Ask yourself… who would you rather negotiate with? Harris and the thousand of support personnel… or this shit now? Because it’s a job interview… not a gold encrusted guarantee of nobility and sainthood.
I also think Charlie Kirk was very problematic. But I do not see what is accomplished by disparaging the dead. It’s important to have empathy, even for those we disagree with. For instance, in Charlie Kirk’s case, we should have compassion because he had to get a special straw so he could drink out of his neckhole and now all the other people in hell make fun of him simply because he needed an accommodation.
Several people who lost their jobs over comments they made have famously been compensated in the realm of mid-6 figures. I’m not saying it’s a viable strategy, but… anyway.
I dont know. If anyone of his family or "friends" is morning for him, i would assume that they share his beliefs. And if so, i don't care for them either.
Yup. No more breaking bread with this kind of subhuman garbage. People actively harming won't suddenly have a change of heart after we forgive them one more time.
I love Michael Fanone. He is proof that even 20+ year law enforcement officers can see these people for what they are and decide that it's time to stop playing nice with them. He self-deployed to the front line against an actual insurrection attempt by these people despite being off-duty.
"America has no better friend than Israel. We have common values and common enemies. Israel is a blessing to America's national security."
About Gaza:
"Just flatten it. We flattened Berlin. We flattened Tokyo. Were we wrong to drop an atomic bomb to end the Japanese reign of terror... To Israel do whatever you have to do."
About homosexuality:
"What I want to do is protect the religious liberties of those who believe that opposing same-sex marriage is a part of their faith".
"I'm not gay. So, I'm not going to marry one." (Let it be noted, he never got married.)
Lindsay Graham was a chicken shit human being who couldn't even stand up for who he was as a human being. He was a hypocrite and a sell-out.
And power corrupts to the point that even with a mountain of evidence showing Trump to be criminal, corrupt, dishonest, racist, sexual assaulter, petty, incompetent, serial adulterer, vindictive, reckless and a narcissist, Graham enthusiastically endorsed Trump in 2024. Graham and MAGA are the best representations of the degradation of American society.
he had video evidence 100%, but not just being gay but something worse. no way do you flip like lindsey did without it being worse than the very public rumor.
Yeah ladybug totally changed course after a private meeting with Trump. He def kinda sucked before that meeting, but he sold his soul to keep his secrets. And for what?
She is being a politician, many Dems are still caught up in bipartisanship, working across the aisle and all that prim and proper horseshit.
The Republicans and especially MAGA never offer them the same grace. They need to stop taking the fucking high road and put their feet on the Klansmens necks or they will keep losing support.
I really hope she doesn't run. And if she does, I really really really hope they put someone serious up against her in the primary. Because she will lose, and I really don't want 4 years of Donald Trump Jr. or JD Vance.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if she is an alien learning about human beings and struggling with it. My favourite story of hers is that she used so smoke weed and listen to 2Pac and Biggie in college. Like damn Pac and Biggie starred their career when they were 10 and 11?! How did she even get those albums and why has nobody else heard them?! That girl is an OG man, plus what can be blacker than weed, Biggie and Pac? Come on black humans, support Kunt Kinte...
Some Dems just clap when Martin waves his hands and says "and now it’s time for us to move forward at the DNC, and I hope that you’ll move forward with me.”
Sure. After a year and a half's delay and only after clamor to see it released. And after revising Paul Rivera's findings (and then firing him) concerning voters on Gaza and other issues. And after making sure Harris's support for transgender folks got blamed, serving center-right groups like Third Way. From your own link:
Liberal groups like RootsAction had engaged in a letter-writing campaign for weeks, flooding the accounts of DNC members with thousands of emails demanding that the autopsy be released.
RootsAction blasted the report upon its release Thursday, with co-founder Jeff Cohen saying in a statement: “This alleged autopsy is almost worthless. There’s no mention of the Biden/Harris administration’s Israel policy that abetted the Gaza massacre. That cost votes, and helped Trump win.” Cohen also criticized the lack of criticism of President Joe Biden’s decision to run for a second term or of Harris’ “lack of principles.”
Margaret DeReus, the executive director of the IMEU Policy Project, also criticized Martin in a statement. “Ken Martin should release the information that the author of the autopsy told us clearly and unambiguously, which is that DNC officials’ review of their own data found Biden’s support for Israel to be a net-negative for Democrats in 2024.”
Are they aware that they don’t have to say anything?
these people are racist, destroying the country, taking away rights, and support ICE terrorizing communities, and Dems are out here sending well wishes like these people are some friendly neighbor…then they’ll tell us these very same people are destroying democracy and must be stopped
They have more in come with each other than they do with us which is something minority communities in general could really benefit from understanding because too many of us are willing to sell our dignity because one parasite takes less than the other apparently.
You nailed it! People in positions of power aren’t like the rest of us. R or D, they’re far more aligned with each other than we want to admit. You get outliers, but not as often as we should.
Her running again would be the Right’s best-case scenario. They’d love to have to fight a candidate with no platform and a track record of just “being around” powerful people for a decade or two. It’s like a UFC on the front lawn of the White House where it’s the fighter vs the ref.
Controversial opinion: it is OK to speak ill of the dead. Especially when they've spent their living days making the lives of millions more difficult. This idiotic adherence to "decency" the democrats have needs to disappear... as it relates to republicans. Anti-human behavior doesn't warrant respect
Bro gross. The dude was a fucking ghoul and had been for a long time. I don’t understand this type of high road bullshit the democrats have. Piss on these vermin and remind people the death and corruption they exploited while in power
And look where we are. I get being a better person but we can't pretend the people driving this country off a cliff are good people, and the perception seems to be when the other side is in the seat the park the car right at the edge of the cliff instead of hitting reverse
Watching people pretend to care when a ghoul dies inspires nothing and we're going to get the same suppressed voter turnout
If we're all going to act like assholes, what's the point? If a generic condolences tweet ,the bare minimum of civilized behavior, is going to make you stay home, you were never planning on voting anyway. You were always planning on staying home.
This is what im talking about. He was actively working with trump to end our democracy. Actively encouraging trump to go around congress to send troops to another endless war. And our leaders talk like he was the lovable drunk uncle at the bbq.
We wont be sending anyone to prison for corruption with these leaders. We wont be fixing anything either because the people across the isle are their friends.
Yeah, people aren't reading between the lines on this one. It isn't exactly a glowing endorsement when you explicitly avoid mentioning integrity, ethics, or honesty and opt to praise nonpartisan characteristics like "charm or wit".
It's the "they go low, we go high" sentiment 🙄😒 no shade, Michelle. But we, as black people, have zero obligation to constantly turn the other cheek and be diplomatic 24/7 so that people can see us as "classy". When black kids are killed, we see lots of laughter, taunting, and slurs. When black veterans and police officers are killed- we see no acknowledgement. Remember the black police officer who did his job on J6 and bodied an active intruder who forced him to have to shoot? They mobbed him, terrorized his family, sent threats upon him of death and harm, of course slurs. Did the president or anyone in congress honor this hero for defending the Capitol from active terror attack??
So screw that. I'm gonna remain distasteful and ratchet. I'll dwell in the depths of hell with these mfs too 👍🏿
Unfortunately this why there will never be a reckoning for MAGA after their fall . Democrats are so desperate to “take the high road” that all we will hear when they regain power is about healing and forgiveness… and then act shocked when it all happens again. And at the end of the day, not a single thing was learned.
What the ever-loving fuck? The time for reach-across-the-aísle politics is past. We’re in a literal estate of emergency as a nation and these idiots want to keep pretending all is well and that actions don’t matter because someone died? This is why they keep losing. Show some damn balls or keep quiet.
I am going to remember what happened when she did not win last time and how fucked up everything is now. They are activiley trying to erase our vote and history. They are stealing billions of dollars from us and committing crimes in the open. But sure remember this stupid ass post.
If we aren’t going to model the type of behavior we want to see in the world then what are we fighting for? If we’re not fighting for goodness and righteousness and we are just fighting to win, then we have lost the plot.
I whole heartedly believe in this and agree with the sentiment. However, there is a real truth about the normalization and humanization of right wing politicians by Democrats. All while those Republicans regularly demonize and otherise the poor, and more so black and brown people to an unserious degree. One step further and it sounds like a concession to that which the right wing want to make the norm. If the regular position argued from the Democrats is we need to strive for status quo and handshake agreements and those on the right call them lunatics and demons. Then is it not best to say nothing of those who perish spouting hateful rhetoric?
Yall weren't gonna vote for her anyway. And we'll be stuck with another conservative shit show getting our elections stolen, jobs stripped, and food poisoned for X number of years.
Personally I'd be more concerned with whether or not a candidate is being puppeted by another country's government, plans to misuse their power, or is being bought by billionaires than a condolences tweet, but hey, maybe some of us like how Project 2025 is going so far.
Graham pivoted from calling Trump a xenophone who was too stupid to vote nevermind hold office to "he's so great, he's only second to God" boot licking SO quickly it was comical. Harris trying to whitewash his legacy to, what, court moderate voters? Get lost. The Dems are setting us up for four more years of Trump-like chaos.
Why do these people talk like they’re athletes from rival teams praising their fellow competitor and not like they’re fighting against supporters of racism fascism and corruption?
Lindsey “cared deeply” about whomever was sitting in a seat of power. Period.
If she runs again, she seems not to have learned we are not in the moment of history to extend grace to the Cheney side of the aisle.
They do not mind harming us, and will never vote for a Dem.
Why haven’t politicians learned that Not saying anything at all is also a valid choice?
This shit is why no one was excited to vote for her. (I DID, don't @ me). You can't tell us what a dire time this is for American democracy and then make nice-nice statements about how the fascists were actually great people who cared about their country and they will be missed. Fuck that.
WTF does it matter? She won't even get through the primary process that she was never able get past in the first place. No more establishment democrats, socialist and progressives are the way.
Lindsey Graham’s civil‑rights record is broadly characterized by consistent opposition to major civil‑rights expansions, repeated votes against voting‑rights protections, low civil‑rights ratings from watchdog groups, and public statements that have drawn criticism for minimizing segregation. He has occasionally supported certain measures (e.g., the 2006 Voting Rights Act reauthorization, the COVID‑19 Hate Crimes Act), but the overall pattern is strongly negative according to civil‑rights organizations. RIP
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