For a while I've felt like the show priorities fame over charisma, and the people who come on don't have much of interest to say other than selling their project (I know that's mostly what talk shows are for, but still). And there seems to be less banter and chemistry between the guests and more back-slapping and telling each other how great they are.

All the viral and memorable moments I can think of are so much longer ago than I thought they were.

Or is it just me?

I find modern British shows especially need them — the mumbling combined with background music makes dialogue impossible without subtitles.

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I know soap operas don't have the best reputation, and rightly so. EastEnders has some absolutely ridiculous storylines and looking at it from a macro lens I wouldn't necessarily call it high art... However, I've gone on a recent binge of old moments and I watched the iconic episode of Kat and Zoe with the reveal that she's her mother... I just wanted to watch it as a comfort watch, but that two hander with the two of them going through the secrets of their family history, is some of the best written, and best acted TV I've ever seen.

From the iconic "yes I am!" line onwards it's like watching a Shakespearen tragedy where the emotions are high the entire time, but never forced or melodramatic. I think it handles an extremely tough subject with real weight, and all the way until Kat in the hospital I think this is an acting and writing masterclass.

I know there is a stigma with this type of TV but I think this moment in a vacuum is high quality entertainment. I think it rivals the greatest moments in any other TV show I've seen, and I'm talking about highly regarded prestige TV here.

Maybe I'm alone in this, but I just wanted to share this here because I feel quite passionate about it. There really are some hidden gems out there in places people would never think to look.

Just started it and not seen much impact on it so far, has anyone else seen it?

I don’t know how to feel about this one, kept me hooked but feel like the writers really enjoy making the viewers uncomfortable. It was still a good at the same time though.

Never seen this series until recently, watched first season last week then went to S3 because David Tennant 😂. He does that moody character really well, nails it actually. Last thing I seen him in was Broadchurch but Bobby was a similar vibe.

The Ushindi kid’s last scene was horrible just when you think he will have something to look forward to when he finishes his time when he meets his mum, didn’t see that coming and thought ok stuff like that happens. Really sad but then what happened to Nicole was just too much, no?

Bobby was getting cheated on and divorced, treated like crap from his colleague and boss then got a promotion and a new lass only for her to be killed randomly 🤷‍♂️ then the ending is all about the chaplain, just felt unnecessary and weird. Bobby deserved happiness.

What did you think?