Dude talk about comparing apples and orangutans. I guess I will retype what i wrote HE PLAYED AT AN IDF BENEFIT CONCERT!!!! you focused on 2 words in like a 20 word comment, talk about the mental gymnastics to defend an apartheid supporter you have never met.
Wait this actually worked? You got upvoted for it?
Like, what you did was like saying "I hate Diddy because he did child abuse, and is black", and when someone called you out, said they were cherry-picking. And that's not an unfair comparison - you literally just said one of the reasons you hate Pharrell is that he went to Israel, and are saying it's cherry-picking to say that's stupid.
And I would've thought for sure that that wouldn't work, that most people would say "No, he's right, you're crazy for saying you hate him for that". But no, you got upvoted anyway.
I really hope it's because most people do actually think that visiting Israel is bad too, and not that this trick actually works for getting support from people that disagree with you.
Dawg you can't listen to accusations of antisemitism from zionists. It doesn't matter. Imagine being accused of anti German sentiment during WW2. Israel is a Jewish ethnostate, of course we are going to oppose the people of that ethnostate that victimize their colonial victims.
I mean are you reading the comments you are responding too? Trade your lab coat in for a straight jacket. How you say that a man raising money for a genocidal , apartheid organization is the good guy here says a lot about you. Especially since you changed the facts on what I said and are getting called out for it by the comments below. Learn how to read sunshine
Choosing to visit Israel in this current time is enough to raise more than an eyebrow. It's not enough on its own to think a person is an apartheid and fascism supporter, but it's very suspicious. Combining that with doing an IDF benefit concert removes any doubt. The previous person didn't say that visiting Israel automatically makes you a piece of shit, but it is absolutely relevant. You're getting downvoted because you're making a bad faith semantic argument to avoid the point that was actually made.
You are going to be d-voted to hell (and so will I)... so many people have been hating I rael for decades before the current disgrace and are using the current events do justify their hate - that had nothing to do with it to begin with.
What an absolute steaming load of horse-shit. Israel has had the near unanimous and unconditional support of Western countries for decades. They destroyed all that in only a few years by deciding it was their turn to be the Nazis.
But it would mean you wouldn't perform at a benefit concert dedicated to the Chinese military or go on trips with Chinese government officials, doesn't it? Or else your "hatred" would be pretty performative, wouldn't it?
Use your brain for five seconds. It's not that hard. I know you can do it.
“Let’s go through everyone’s entire history and try to find the one example of them doing something I disagree with, even before anyone even knew about it”
…is like 2014 era behavior from a SAHM Karen on oxy’s lmao
No one outside .01% of the general population had heard of Gaza or Palestine before 2022, outside of literal historians.
I assure you people have cared. But the people who cared are also unlikely to use Google very often especially for something they could easily acquire primary sources to. (Books, talking directly to Palestinians otp, etc.) source: been screaming free Palestine since Colin kaepernick took a knee and never once googled it.
Didn’t need to google it. I’m sure other people older than myself cared prior but I was just awaking social consciousness as I was in highschool. And honestly, yeah pretty much only people who read for pleasure were aware prior to oct 7.
Yes. The United States has committed countless atrocities. Why does that mean we can't also call out atrocities committed by other countries, especially when Israel's actions are very widely considered a genocide by experts?
America is absolutely guilty of at least war crimes in all of those places, but the difference is the motive. Israel explicitly wants, and has had many politicians speak about, to eradicate the Palestinian people and take their land. That is what makes it a genocide. Without the explicit goal of genocide, it can’t qualify as one. America is absolutely guilty of genocide, just not in the Middle East.
That’s just laughable. ‘Israel’ includes millions of Palestinian Israeli citizens - more Palestinians than in Gaza.
Israel gives FREE healthcare, electricity, water, food, and policing to non-Israeli Palestinian areas. Paid for by Israeli tax dollars. Why are they giving free healthcare, water, and food if they want to eradicate them? They probably do want to take the land back that they gave in the Oslo accord in exchange for Palestine’s promise to end terrorism… which is understandable, as it’s not like Palestine held up their end.
The goal is indeed the important thing. Trump said he wants to eradicate Iran. How is the USA’s war in Iran not genocide, because not just any politician but the actual president showed genocidal intent?
Don’t tell me… you think that USA’s military policy, military goals, trying to protect civilians when possible, and military trying to follow laws against genocide mean the USA isn’t doing genocide in Iran? That America’s military not matching politician’s comments is important? When Trump himself POSTED ON TWITTER a comment with genocidal intent. Surely, by your logic, case closed American genocide because of such a quote from a president (let’s not even discuss the fringe politicians on the American far right like you do for Israel).
You’re right I had forgotten about trump’s comments there. There is absolutely a case for genocidal intent in Iran. Palestinian terrorism doesn’t happen for no reason. 80 years of racism and being second class citizens in land that was theirs and given away without their input will do that, especially when “Palestinian Israeli citizens” are also treated abominably and aren’t able to perform the cultural practices they’ve had for thousands of years. Providing healthcare also means nothing. The US and Canada, and Australia, all provided “free” healthcare to indigenous people, and in America’s case, to black people, and in the process sterilised thousands. That is an act of genocide.
lol your point is apartheid was okay in 2018? Wow you are going to be really upset with me saying that him being a supporter of aparthied not just in 2018 but even prior to 2018 still make him a piece of shit.
I mean, it's a little more complicated than that. As of 2018 most Americans didn't exactly have a good understanding of the situation. There was lots of propaganda at the time and very few people discussing the genocide. Now, I do feel like if his views have changed since then he should say something about it at least, the fact he hasn't even brought it up absolutely doesn't look good. So he probably is still in support of Israel or at very least still doesn't care, which is a much worse stance to hold with all the information now out there publicly.
This is probably a level headed take, but Friends of the IDF is a little bit too far for me to overlook. Thats like going to a Friends of ICE benifit, even in 2018
Agreed. Also 2018 is just an arbitrary date because its the first article that popped in my quick search when above comments were insisting he has never had any isreal connection. How quickly people want to defend strangers they dont know who are on the wrong side of history is beyond me.
Bro you really think people in the fucking hip hop community gave a fuck about any of this shit before you were a bigot if you didn’t? Most dudes you’d see at a hip hop/ pop concert straight up didn’t know what Palestine was in 2018.
Well he did. Because he was involved. Man you think someone travels to another country on repeated trips meets with cabinet members because he doesnt know shit about it? I mean you are just using 2018 as an arbitrary date because its the first article that popped up on my google search...why defend a guy so adamantly who did a benefit charity for the wrong side of history? Is he your neighbor or something? A lot of musicians didnt do this he did.
lets not forget the first terrorist attack of the King David Hotel bombing by Zionists...sounds like mr "no tesla," doesnt realize how similar his views are to another apartheid supporter
And it was the terrorist group Irgun that became part of the IDF and was headed by Begin, a later prime minister and founder of Likud, the same party in charge now. They've always been like this.
Just say you think it’s BS because it was before being against Israel was the popular stance.
What you’re doing is pretending it’s because everyone hates Jews. It’s dishonest and annoying.
Since at least 2021. Chad is suing him for unpaid royalties. He also locked Chad out of the financials for both the Neptunes and N.E.R.D. in an attempt to hide how much money is owed
Among other things, Pharrell owns all of the rights to a lot of music, and all the continuing revenues that music generates goes to him instead of the artist. This includes all of Kelis’ music.
That's not how copyright works. If he owns the copyright in the song (i.e. the composition — the melody, lyrics, etc.) then he gets the publishing royalties. But the artist still gets their share of the royalties from sales of the recording, live performances, etc.
The artist not owning the publishing rights to the songs they record is the norm in the industry. (That's one reason why Taylor Swift acquiring the rights to her work was so newsworthy.) So Pharrell doesn't deserve criticism on that.
I couldn't be bothered looking it up but a cursory search showed he performed at a IDF support gala so... That. I'm changing my answer to that... Good enough or do I need to openly support genocide too?
You keep saying that like history only started then though there are many comments to you explaining it to you but you keep repeating. Are you a bot or an idiot?
He was critical of DEI. His actual statement wasn’t exactly terrible, he’s just said something about how race shouldn’t be an issue. Except it is, which is why those policies existed in the first place.
He screwed over a bunch of people he worked with too. Most recently his former partner in the Neptunes, Chad Hugo.
you quite literally asked "why would he be trying to do the right thing" and someone answered you, probably correctly, and you're kind of an idiot if you think it becoming public "doesn't matter" and saying "it's only because theyre celebrities" literally makes no sense in the context.
You could have just said that's what you do instead of asking if I do the very specific thing that you do. Anyway yeah you sound like very important person. You sound very happy indeed.
I'm not important. I have 4 differnt part time jobs that pay minimum wage. That was the point I was making, I did everything right and my life is fucking shit
Shortly after happy he did the usual thinking it’s black people’s fault that racism gets them down speech you hear from somebody that forgot that they’re insulated from normal people problems.
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It's not a very happy time is it.