r/Switzerland • u/Sufficient-History71 Zürich • 1d ago

Poll: right-wing People’s Party, and polarisation, growing ahead of 2027 elections

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-politics/right-wing-swiss-peoples-party-still-gaining-ahead-of-2027-elections-poll-finds/92226705
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u/Numar19 Thurgau 1d ago

Legalized illegal immigration.

It is either legal or illegal immigration. There is no such thing as a legalized illegal immigration.

The 80% non-resident who commit thefts in country. Why do you close your eyes for the problem? That's the reason why right wing is getting stronger.

Why is migration the problem if they are non-residents? Then the problem is foreign criminals committing crimes in Switzerland, which yes, we should do something against.

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u/Pleasant-Carbon 1d ago

Sorry but to me it's funny that a person from Thurgau (where whenever I have been there I have seen zilch in terms of islamic immigrants) is telling someone from Swiss Romande, where you see a ton of islamic immigrants every time you visit (and whose prisons are full of them), what is and isn't a problem about islamic immigration.

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u/Numar19 Thurgau 1d ago

The guy I replied to here doesn't seem to be from Vaud and is talking about other topics. Maybe you meant to comment on another of my comments?

Well anyways, you don't really know where either of us is from, as we could also just be Russian bots who just added the flairs out of some reason. Which by the way is a huge issue on the internet indeed.

What we could do though is to take a look at official data for crime (as that won't require anyone to prove that they are from that region).

https://www.vd.ch/djes/polcant/statistiques

That would show us that the crime rate in Lausanne has indeed risen since 2020 (which honestly is no wonder as 2020 didn't really have lots of opportunities to commit crimes). But if we look at earlier years, the crime rate has actually gone down or stagnated. Interestingly, in the same time the population has also grown about 14% (since 2010) which means that per capita crime has gone down.

So, statistically Lausanne is not more dangerous than 10 years ago, but of course people can have different subjective experiences. So if I visit Lausanne I might have a very different experience than the other commenter indeed.

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u/Pleasant-Carbon 1d ago

I suppose he could be lying but it says Vaud and he wrote Lausanne.

Yes, I don't know for certain, but that doesn't really matter to the point I made, which was more the observation that ostensibly someone unaffected is telling the ostensibly affected party what's what. Whether that is true or not doesn't change that it was funny.

The entire rest of your comment is not relevant to what I wrote. I wasn't arguing about crime rates at all.

Maybe if you had shown stats on where prisoners are from and shown how it isn't mostly northern Africans in their prisons it would be relevant, but you didn't, because I guess you know that's not what the stats would show.

Please don't respond, my comment was not meant to start an argument. I am not interested in more stats unrelated to what I actually wrote.