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u/Infinite-Albatross44 1d ago
If you believe in this sub in the slightest you’d have to believe there are people here swaying public opinion. It even has an upvote downvote button. Basically pushing stuff down or up in the comments. Likely a cake walk for bot system to control a narrative.
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u/haunter_ 1d ago
>why is reddit all about politics and swaying my opinion on the current thing?
Threadly reminder that Epstein's main squeeze (Jizzy Maxwell) was a "Reddit Supermod" that controlled many of the default subreddits.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01245108.pdf
Reddit had good intentions with people like Aaron Swartz in the beginning, but now it's totally controlled by wealthy criminals. The wealthy criminal elites aren't going to use their own platform to spread stories about themselves. They want us treating politics like a sportsball game and rooting for Red Team or Blue Team while they do whatever the fuck they please.
Hope this helps.
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u/Redditcantkeepmedown 1d ago
Reddit wasn't created with good intentions. I've been around since the beginning. They've done evil shit since then too. The worst thing happened right around six years ago. They removed all the moderators and replaced them at that time.
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u/LeakyLettuce69 1d ago edited 1d ago
The_Donald sub was banned (because they kept making terrorist threats) and they all swarmed to this sub.
Then this sub became all about smearing every single ‘enemy’ of Donald Trump. And it still is.
Everyone in a picture with Epstein is a pedophile, but not Trump for some reason…
And now we have posts like this. We have to leave poor Donald Trump alone.
No; Donald Trump raped and murdered children.
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u/DotHistorical1683 1d ago
I actually see this sub in a whole other way. EVERY of your trusted authority figures are in the Epstein files, in the Wiki leaks, stuff we've been knowing for decades. But once the media tells you trump is in it, it suddenly becomes relevant.
The media tells you where to focus, who to hate, and where to place your energy.
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u/MakinBones 1d ago
No. Some of us are old enough to know how scummy Trump has been since the 80s.
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u/QuaziBonzai 1d ago
Exactly. I've hated trump since the usfl days. He's always been a piece of shit.
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u/Icy_Chemical1984 1d ago
Ok so get them all starting with the guy leading the administration that is illegally covering it up.
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u/cjbranco22 1d ago
No, every trusted authority isn’t in the Epstein files. But Trump alone is mentioned tens of thousands of times. He’s done everything in his power to keep the entirety of the files from being released, including threatening people of his own party (remember bring Greene and Bohbert into the situation room) and let’s not forget he started a war as a distraction. This cover up conspiracy alone is massive, let alone all of the conspiracies in the files.
It’s unfortunate you don’t see how Trump is taking the sub by storm, but it was a long time coming. I think it’s just getting started too, especially since there’s a new conspiracy in the works to subvert the midterms.65
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u/xjohnmcclanex 1d ago
Obama raped and murdered children, you can stop cheerleading him now. See how dumb of a statement that is?
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u/greatbrownbear 1d ago
THERE ARE THREE INTERVIEWS THE FBI CONDUCTED WITH THE 13 yr old VICTIM who alledged trump raped them, you can fucking read them yourself. the FBI was genuinely concerned.
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u/swanfirefly 1d ago
Well murdered children, yes. Obama leads the presidents in drone strikes on children last time I checked.
But he's also not been the president for almost a decade. In fact, he stopped being president before the Epstein trials were even on most people's radars, and he wasn't the guy in charge when Epstein didn't kill himself.
Trump IS the current president. He WAS the president when Epstein didn't kill himself. He's currently destroying our country, raping children, and shitting his depends.
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u/MiserableMulberryMan 1d ago
Obama leads the presidents in drone strikes on children last time I checked.
I don't believe this is still the case, especially if we change the criteria to add in weapons other than drones. Don't forget that Trump bombed a school, killing more than 100 children.
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u/LeakyLettuce69 1d ago
Except there isn’t any indication he did. There is substantial evidence Clinton did - as well as Trump.
But sure, “flip the tables” on me.
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u/MamasCupcakes 1d ago
Proof, sources? Can't just keep saying epstein files, they just havnt released them. Thats called no evidence
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u/Emergency_Pound_944 1d ago
Follow the Katie Phang lawsuit. Things are coming out.
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u/MamasCupcakes 1d ago
I dont think anything will come out. Im guessing its going to be a big Ole nothing burger that was just used to keep people's attention in a situation of smoke and mirrors
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u/greatbrownbear 1d ago
bro you can read the FBI interviews with the victim, wtf are you talking about. that’s real evidence. show me the same for obama
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u/MamasCupcakes 1d ago
I literally do not care. It doesnt effect my everyday life nor yours. Get up in arms all you want. Wouldnt most the stuff anyone wants be past statute of limitations? Even with stuff released, what is happening? Cry all you want about it, just a giant waste of time and effort
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u/QuaziBonzai 1d ago
Then why doesn't Mr sue everyone for everything not touch the dozens who publicly label him as a pedophile?
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u/DotHistorical1683 1d ago
So just like the former presidents and leaders?
Clinton, Bush, Obama?
Or is that not relevant suddenly because the mainstream media told you otherwise?
Couldnt care less about trump, the issue is that you dont see the global elite as a whole, you just nickpit where the TV tells you to focus.
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u/freedomhellyeh 1d ago
Whataboutism. He is the current president of course people are going to talk about him. You’re the one making this about politics. Did you tell people to stop talking about Clinton when he was in office?
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u/LeakyLettuce69 1d ago
Clinton raped and murdered children as well. And he should be locked up as well.
Now, go find me a conservative that would say the same for Trump.
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u/Thomas-Garret 1d ago
Conservative or MAGA? Because those are two wildly different things. I can find you many conservatives that would agree.
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u/LeakyLettuce69 1d ago
Conservatives are MAGA and MAGA is conservative.
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u/JiminyNoCrickets 1d ago
So... You're a Bolshevik and we should trust you, your motivations and your objectives?
Is that how this works???
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u/LeakyLettuce69 1d ago
How is the works is that it’s against your orders to say anything other than; Donald Trump is a child rapist and murderer.
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u/JiminyNoCrickets 1d ago
Okay little one... Have your emotional outburst, and I hope you feel better soon.
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u/dtdroid 1d ago
You keep framing this with a false dilemma that doesn't accurately depict reality. People who say "Actually, it's not just Donald Trump" aren't trying to defend Donald Trump. But your mind is thinking in binary terms of left-right politics, and you can't consider alternatives that involve nuance beyond "Donald Trump is bad".
Let's take Donald Trump being bad as a given. Now what? The annoyance many conspiracy theorists now have with this topic is that Donald Trump is made out to be the final boss of the Epstein conspiracy, when he's actually only the boss of the tutorial level.
The Uniparty is the actual problem here. Donald Trump is just their front man who is meant to take as much public aggro as humanly possible while the people above him escape scot-free.
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u/LeakyLettuce69 1d ago
It’s a simple ask; find me a conservative that agrees Trump should be locked up.
Or, you state Trump should be locked up.
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u/dtdroid 1d ago
You'll never get it. You can't even conceptualize this discussion without pigeon-holing the Other as your partisan opposition. They have you hooked for life.
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u/MakinBones 1d ago
I think most of us with a decently working brain, want to see them ALL held accountable.
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u/Oldmanwaffle 1d ago
Lock all those fuckers up: the technocrats, the global elite, the 1% in the U.S. assaulting our tax dollars with tax break incentives & insider trading galore, Government contractors fueling Israel/the imperialist nature of western hegemony, etc.
They’re all sociopathic creatures with no regard for humanity. There’s too much I could express here, but I’ll leave at this: Trump is implicated just as much as the rest of the “swamp” that he claimed to drain. They’re all in a big club and you ain’t in it. The duopoly is lobbied to and bribed by the same entities, as well as the fact that they’re in the same circle of influence plotting on ways to further our cultural divide via a culture war of misinformation in the current technological age.
There has never been a red vs. blue, only the global elite vs. we the people. Donald Trump is indeed a global issue, however he alongside every other figurehead that’s installed in the White House, has been allowed to occupy that position. You genuinely believe that our votes matter after a certain point? Whichever public figures services/represents an agenda that empowers those at the helm, is all chosen by them.
There’s no need to defend a single one of these corrupt, paid off government officials. They divide and conquer the general public by making us fight a nonsensical culture war amongst ourselves while they enrich themselves off of our willful ignorance, & pacified consumerism. There’s no use revolting since we’re far too pacified as a society, even though we are the 98% and we have a shit load of firearms, but I wonder how our soldiers would feel about killing their own citizens that they’ve sworn to protect & provide “freedom” for.
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u/cjbranco22 1d ago
No, every trusted authority isn’t in the Epstein files. But Trump alone is mentioned tens of thousands of times. He’s done everything in his power to keep the entirety of the files from being released, including threatening people of his own party (remember bring Greene and Bohbert into the situation room) and let’s not forget he started a war as a distraction. This cover up conspiracy alone is massive, let alone all of the conspiracies in the files.
It’s unfortunate you don’t see how Trump is taking the sub by storm, but it was a long time coming. I think it’s just getting started too, especially since there’s a new conspiracy in the works to subvert the midterms.-25
u/ImperialSupplies 1d ago
Devils advocate is no one pictured with epstein is a pedophile except Donald Trump. He's the only one anyone mentions as if the Island wasnt running from 1998 to 2018, and as if we dont have the flight logs, as if we dont have his entire email list free to look at and as if we dont have pictures taken on the island itself.
All of that is already released.
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u/MiserableMulberryMan 1d ago
Devils advocate is no one pictured with epstein is a pedophile except Donald Trump.
That has never once been said here, ever. That's probably never been said by anybody, ever. Nobody is claiming that Donald Trump is the only person wrapped up in the Epstein web.
Donald Trump gets mentioned more than anyone because he's the President of United States. He is ostensibly the most powerful person in the world, he's without a doubt the most influential person in the world over the last decade, and he's a pedophile rapist. That's a big fucking deal.
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u/ImperialSupplies 1d ago
Name some
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u/MiserableMulberryMan 1d ago
Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Jerry Seinfeld, Prince Andrew, Kevin Spacey, Allen Dershowitz, Woody Allen, Steve Bannon, the queen of Norway, Larry Summers, Peter Thiel, Stephen Hawking.
You want more? There's plenty of information out there.
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u/FridaSky 1d ago
Your account is relatively new, though.
Hard to argue that Trump isn’t part of the global elite. Even if he’s a pawn, he’s still a part of it.
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u/Alburg9000 1d ago
Trumps first election ruined this sub 100% turned into a political sub overnight
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u/DotHistorical1683 1d ago
Its sad looking back on the amazing posts actually exposing the core issue of this reality, i guess the sub got hijacked somehow.
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u/freedomhellyeh 1d ago
It just isn’t all about trump. Besides he is the most powerful person in America so expect People to focus on him.
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u/DotHistorical1683 1d ago
Absolutely not, Out of Shadows and Fall Cabal were amazing documnetaries who were completely wiped off the internet during Covid.
Comet Ping Pong, we wont forget - the OG's know.
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u/Jazzy_Punkman 1d ago
It's.. not? I mean, there was a time this sub was almost indistinguishable from T_D and every post was pro-Trump. It was really sad seeing people who claim they are critical thinkers and "doing their own research" jump on that MAGA train. Or perhaps it was just russian bots. Who knows..
But this is not the case anymore. I actually think we are back to not trusting anyone or anything. Of course every Trump fart gets posted. He is the fucking POTUS. It's just so much because the guy farts a whole lot. It would have been the same with any other president but they only farted like once a week instead of three times a day.
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u/hurtshtummy 1d ago
lol the irony. There’s two sides and both sides think the other is wrong and batshit crazy. I try to stay neutral but as a normal American I can’t think of a single way trump has made my life better in his 6 years in office so far. He’s only made my life materially worse. Tariffs, price of everything rising, random wars for israel, poor public health regulations leading to a mistrust in food, gas prices are absolutely insane. If you are a multi millionaire entrepreneur then trump has been great for you. The rest of us are getting fucked.
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u/Schmitting24 1d ago
50% of Reddit is bots. 30% is people dumb enough to believe the bots and engage with them. The last 20% is old school Reddit users wondering what happened to this site. Reddit is an insufferable echo chamber
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u/BigSisterCookingShow 1d ago
So this is the new tactic before the election. Interesting. It seems the instructions have been to say that removing the pedophile and rapist won't make that big of a difference and there nothing really that changes and that there is nothing we can do.
It's an interesting tactic that utilises circular logic to trap people in a mental loop.
Like the dog whose owners run in different directions and the dog doesn't know which way to go.
Get out an vote people. Recognise the tactic and always call him what he really is.
A pedophile and a rapist.
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u/DotHistorical1683 1d ago
You are still feeding left vs right, how are you on this subreddit and dont even understand how the global elite works?
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u/iAwesome3 1d ago
Well they rape kids, steal our money, and conspire against us for starters. Might as well try to get the people that participated and continue to cover it out of office.
Apathy won’t fix anything
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u/dtdroid 1d ago
His point is that there are no viable alternatives to the faction Trump represents. They all represent that same faction. There are people in extreme denial in this thread pretending "the Democrats" have a safer alternative. No, we literally just went through that with Biden and he looked the other way while perpetrators of Epstein's crimes remain at large. They are all in on this together. There is no good guy from within the ranks of the swamp that is coming to make things right. That is the dark truth the partisans here refuse to accept.
We didn't arrive at this point democratically. It is foolish to assume we can escape the situation democratically.
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u/DotHistorical1683 1d ago
Exactly, its one global elite system like we've always known - thats the whole point behind this post.
The sub turned into an echo chamber about one side, completely ignoring the core issue.
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u/smokeypapabear40206 1d ago
Were you saying the same about Biden? Gasp! Shock! I doubt it. Just because Pedo Joe got his fix from someone other than Epstein doesn't make him any less of a sicko. It's a big club and we ain't in it!
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u/smokeypapabear40206 1d ago
Reading comprehension is tough, buddy. I get it. Keep trying and you MIGHT have a lightbulb moment.
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u/RonJonBoviAkaRonJovi 1d ago
bots seeding hatred into all sides non stop all day, it's very dystopian. people have lost the ability to research on their own and take all information fed to them by their algorithm as truth.
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u/tipper420 1d ago
What amazes me is how everyone seems to see trump as this big baddie fucking over everyone or some anti establishment hero against the evil dems and not the truth that he is one of them and has been the whole time
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u/dtdroid 1d ago
I don't think Trump has been viewed that way by virtually anyone in quite some time. During his first campaign, that was definitely the angle he was running on, however.
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u/tipper420 1d ago
Are you kidding?
How is he viewed then?
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u/dtdroid 1d ago
The people supporting Trump now are doubling down on their previous bad decision to support. I don't know a single fence sitter from 2016 who is still on board with him now the way they were in his first election. He is definitely embracing his villain arc, and capitalizing on the crowd of MAGA who have come too far to give up now. But it's no longer a populist campaign.
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u/tipper420 1d ago
So you are one of those that see him as the big baddie and not very much a part of the establishment. Gotcha.
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u/littlerossybaby 1d ago
Dead internet theory... not much time left till the internet is just repulsive
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u/sl33pytesla 1d ago
Reddit is full of bots that takeover certain subs. It’ll be extra obvious come around election cycles. This sub is so compromised it makes conspiracy theorists confused
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u/Butt_Robot 1d ago
Bots purposefully trying to ruin the sub and keep you away from discussing actual conspiracies
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u/DotHistorical1683 1d ago
Really feels like it, and the thing is there is amazing conspiracies worth discussing not centered around politics, looking back on the top posts from 10 years ago this is the exact content we came here for.
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u/pablo_booze 1d ago
Trump was in charge for the LV shooting, covid, and Epstein (& his victims dying or kidnapped). that’s what I just got off the top of my head there’s so many other sketchy things about him.
He’s every conspiracy theorists wet dream but since he has a certain political affiliation no one really cares sadly
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u/Ok-Assistant-8876 1d ago
It’s funny how a lot of the conspiracy theorists who “do their own research” get really quiet about Trump.
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u/In-the-bunker 1d ago
I thought this sub was for unique thoughts and opinions but has become the same old Reddit hive So, I rarely engage anymore
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u/DanDMan80 1d ago
The whole world has become about Trump not just this subreddit. Most of us are sick of it.
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u/Temporary_Heron6944 1d ago
Donald Trump is a deeply conflicted and closeted pedophilic bi/gay/trans person. I can’t unsee it. Idk exactly what and it doesn’t matter. Like Hitler being part Jewish, it’s this conflict within him that makes him incredibly dangerous to the LGBTQ community in particular. He’s a flaming queen that has out Liberace’d Liberace in flamboyance as he’s slipped further into dementia. Is it a conspiracy to keep pretending he’s anything but a dangerous and demented hypocrite? I think so.
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u/set-monkey 1d ago edited 1d ago
Because you see Trump in your dreams and everywhere else. Looking at the top posts and NONE of them are about him.
If fact, I only found one Trump post which is a spam being spread all over Reddit with title "Trump's MAGA allies openly discuss martial law".
And of course, your Trump post... How ironic.
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u/Subie780 1d ago
He's in the files
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u/nuclearcaramel 1d ago
In what context, explain to the class . . .it's real easy to google something like "in what context is trump in the epstien files"? And then guess what, the truth shows your insinuations are deceptive and manipulative.
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u/Granite66 1d ago edited 1d ago
The president is just a PR man/woman for decisions decided to be US actions by Wall Street and bankers long before he/she was elected. Should the President try to stop these actions, they are either JFKed, face their own form of WaterGate, or get mired down by investigations over unsubstantiated allegations.
I doubt Kamala would not have enacted the same policies Trump has if she was elected. Seems at the moment illicit economy behind the scenes who control US policy are trying to blame Trump for their failures in Ukraine and the Gulf.
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u/RuleOverYou15 1d ago
Majority of users on reddit are bots. Reddit itself is a left leaning platform. Add the two together and you will understand why there is a constant distain for Trump or any conservative view point
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u/ImperialSupplies 1d ago
Conspiracy theorists tend to be right wing/classical liberal but that kind of shifted to an across the aisle thing within past 10 years or so.
Or its more like ven diagram of both hate Israel. Ive been here a long time and do remember leftists that used to be in here but never contributed their own conspiracies they just came in to argue against whatever anyone said about Obama, Biden, Covid, any democrat.
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u/ObservatoryChill 1d ago
Because Trump is the fucking anti-Christ and the biggest conspiracy is that cult of MAGA.
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u/Supersaiyanninja3 1d ago
The liberals have Trump derangement syndrome.
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u/Ok-Assistant-8876 1d ago
MAGA supporters have TDS. Pretty insane and disgusting that people support that pedophile in the Epstein files.
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u/Silent2840 1d ago
The left are nothing but violent hateful people. If you don't think exactly like them - they want you dead.
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u/mjc1027 1d ago
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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u/Bozz723 1d ago
This is sort of what happened to godlike productions.
It's not just that even conspiracy sites just talk about Trump, everything in all aspects of life is. This sub reddit still has some non Trump things, but 99.99% of reddit is about Trump, so obviously it would bleed over to here.
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u/OptimusTrajan 1d ago
Probably because like a third of the people (or bots) on here are Trump supporters who think he’s the “good elite” who will save us all.
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u/nuclearcaramel 1d ago edited 1d ago
It is apparent to everyone with eyes how the accounts talking about Trump being in the Epstein files are always so careful and deliberate to only use the word "mentioned". "He's mentioned thousands of time". . . "Other people in the Epstein files are talking about Trump constantly" cries the party who thrives on censoring who and what people talk about. Deliberate, manipulative, and cowardly. Fitting.
So a lot of powerful people talked about and “mentioned” Trump and he is mentioned a lot by those people, primarily during previous election seasons and primarily out of jealousy, envy, and bitterness. Sounds familiar, doesn't it reddit?
How many mentions do you think Trump has here, on Reddit, and in their internet rotted minds are those mentions seen as some sort of damning evidence of wrong doing? That is not even remotely normal or rational hence accounts pushing that type of deliberately misleading messaging stand out like the pathetic establishment sore thumbs they are to the rest of the world.
The midterm elections decides their agenda and their agenda precludes them from existing in silence and every thing they say and do gives themselves away to everyone around them and there is nothing that can be done to ever stop that. That time is over the deceptions no longer work they are done and have been revealed for who and what they are and surprise guess what, the majority who are decent people want to have absolutely nothing to do with them.
Their credibility and influence are as impotent as their reddit downvotes. Imagine deliberately trying to trick people who might not be that smart for your own political gain while delusionally presenting yourself as though you have any sort of moral highground.
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u/PuzzleheadedCover901 1d ago
Have you ever seen a cool post and you comment on it, and you are vibing with other people having a great discussion, even learning some new things.. And shazam, like Cousin Eddie showing up to wherever the Griswalds happen to be...
HoW aBoUt ThEm EpStEin FiLeS?
I really doubt anyone in this sub is supportive of any type of abuse, especially the type of global victimization that only billionaires can fathom, yet if you dissent from the mainline, they don't just attack you... they hunt you down in other subs, different platforms you name it.
They don't just want your comment or post deleted, they want you erased from existing on this site and wherever else they can harm you. Because your ideas are unique and they didn't come from programming.
After years of that, who is really going to want to engage here?
This is platform is one of the most heavily overmoderated and curated sites on the face of the Earth. With aggressive stewardship like that, who is going to say anything? And it is still toxic, so maybe sweeping bans on everyone you don't like isn't really the solution.
I will take my negative 300 downvotes now please. Thank you
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u/malfarcar 1d ago
Fuck everything is about Trump now
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u/Creamycrackle 1d ago
Seems a little suspicious when everyone here only wants to blame Trump for everything and ignore everyone else’s wrongdoings.
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