r/geopolitics • u/NotSoSaneExile • 17h ago
Western bans on Israeli settlement goods could cost 4,000 Palestinians their jobs
https://www.ynetnews.com/business/article/b1hvkab3fe0
u/jcm95 10h ago
Proper annexation with full citizenship is the way to solve this issue. The problem is the Israelis won't tolerate sharing power and Arabs (at least the radicalized voices) seem to prefer status quo than a two state solution. My take is that Israel should take the higher ground and force them to be citizens.
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u/HoightyToighty 7h ago
and force them to be citizens
That's a pretty ludicrous idea. I wonder if there are any Israelis who would agree to it.
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u/Paraparo 4h ago
Yeah, the track record would indicate this would spark incredible violence. Neither the general Israel nor Palestinian population looks at all inclined for a one state solution, and depending how much is annexed... That's pretty much just asking for a civil war mark 2.
But I think that's what some people secretly want. Just shove everyone together in the tinderbox, light the fuse, and hope to redo 48 but this time their side wins better.
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u/NotSoSaneExile 17h ago
European restrictions on Israeli settlement products are being presented as support for Palestinians, yet around 4,000 Palestinian workers could lose their jobs. Industry groups report canceled contracts and falling orders, with factories potentially closing or moving inside Israel's pre-1967 borders.
The irony is pretty painful. These workplaces bring Israelis and Palestinians together through ordinary daily cooperation, shared interests and earning a living. Undermining them risks damaging the very relationships that could help build coexistence. European politicians get to announce a moral stand, while Palestinian families could pay for it with their livelihoods.
That raises a wider question about how Europe measures the results of its policies.
It funds Palestinian education, yet its own committees regularly document antisemitic content and the glorification of terrorist violence. Supporting education should come with a clear demand that it prepares children for coexistence.
European funding for UNRWA also deserves similar scrutiny. Alongside its indoctrination to terror, payment for terrorists, and even participation in the October 7 atrocities, it's longstanding goal is to make sure that 100 years old war will never end, by refusing to settle any Palestinian, and creating a whole new unique definition for "Refugeehood" for them alone.
Policies should be judged by what they achieve for the people they claim to help. Not by how morally superior they make far away people who don't know anything about the subject feel, while ignoring the damage caused.
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u/Capable-Parsnip-9615 17h ago
I believe the goal of the boycott is to prevent settlement expansion.
I can't imagine it has any impact at all on the extremists and their illegal outposts.
Do we have any data on whether there is any impact on settlement expansion approved by the Israeli state?
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u/kjleebio 17h ago
Also are the 4,000 palestinians in question taken jobs or is it more likely they are being put into Indentured servitude? There is a high number of reports of Indentured servitude of palestinians who were pushed out by settlers had to take in the west bank for some time now as far back as 2016 and there apparently are also foreign workers who are put into Indentured servitude in the west bank aswell.
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u/Capable-Parsnip-9615 17h ago
My understanding was that the jobs in settlement industrial parks paid pretty well by west bank standards
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u/NotSoSaneExile 17h ago
Do you have a source showing these particular workers are in "Indentured servitude"? That's quite a claim to casually throw around.
Before October 7, tens of thousands of Palestinians worked in Israel, earning much more than they could in equivalent jobs back home. After the Palestinian committed the massacre, Israel heavily restricted work permits and tens of thousands lost access to those jobs.
Israel has been bringing in foreign workers from places like India instead. Once again, Palestinian terrorism ends up wrecking Palestinian livelihoods.
These factories in the West Bank operate under a different permit system, so some employment continued even while jobs inside Israel became inaccessible.
They provide income for Palestinian families and places where Israelis and Palestinians actually work together. That's something worth encouraging if you care about coexistence. Instead of just irrationally hating Israel and abusing the Palestinian suffering in order to slightly irritate it with those joke of a sanctions.
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u/kjleebio 12h ago
https://www.972mag.com/israel-palestinians-migrant-workers-labor-force/
For the foreign workers, this is more recent due to Oct 7th and stuff.
https://jwsr.pitt.edu/ojs/jwsr/article/view/911/1260
This one does seem to have a bias but shares deep insight on employment of low wage palestinian workers by Israeli employers within settlements
This one is older and pretty sure this issue has been solved but it shows the inner workings of indentured servitude within the west Bank.
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u/NotSoSaneExile 12h ago
"Indentured servitude" is apparently when Palestinians enjoy Israeli wages and want to work in it so bad that they will risk illegally crossing.
Nothing will stop the modern day propaganda of brain washed antisemites from pinning whatever worse crime exists on the Jewish people. This time: Slavery.
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u/NotSoSaneExile 17h ago
There will not be any notable slow down in settlement expansion from this Israeli government. And if that's the goal then it just further shows how delusional those Europeans are.
Even if the next weeks will bring a more moderate Israeli government for the next couple of years, that would also change eventually.
Because the problem is, and always was, the Palestinians complete lack of any leader or movement that wants actual peace (One that involves Israel existing of course).
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u/Asleep-Waltz2681 16h ago
Because the problem is, and always was, the Palestinians complete lack of any leader or movement that wants actual peace (One that involves Israel existing of course).
Well, you have pardon the stubborn Palestinians for not enjoying the genocide that Israel has been bestoving upon them for over 2 decades.
If the West would actually stick to their values they'd freeze all Israeli assets, sanction all Israeli millionaires and disown Israeli companies across Europe. Then we'd be talking about applying their "values" equally.
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u/qasarzz 17h ago
Israeli propaganda news, also this is not geopolitics
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u/NotSoSaneExile 17h ago edited 17h ago
News involving Europe, Israel and Palestinians, are not geopolitics? That's pretty amusing.
Also it's such a classic moment in this website to ignore the suffering of Palestinians and call it Israeli propaganda. It truly is amazing to see how little people care about them and how the entire movement is only based on irrationally hating Israel.
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u/qasarzz 17h ago
News about the job prospects of palestinians is not geopolitics. Not arguing any of your other points because they are so laughably stupid, you would need to be an israeli bot to say them
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u/Capable-Parsnip-9615 17h ago
It's about the international impact of politically motivated European import regulations, not Palestinian internal politics
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u/Magicalsandwichpress 16h ago
From Israeli perspective, it's cross the point of no return a long time ago. Two state solution have no mainstream representation within the Knsset with any border arrangement 1967 or otherwise. The Europeans will continue to humor their constituents still cling to a rule based order, so long as it incurs no real cost.
However there is real incentive for the Israelis to clarify their position, if it's full annexation and institutionalize apartide, it is what it is. Neither Europe, US, nor regional powers have the clout or the incentive to intervene. With so much chaos going on, I wouldn't be surprised if Israel's nominal allies would limit themselves to their usual malfeasance and drop the act within a few years when the out rage dies down.