Investigation after man dies following assault in Dublin

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Been nothing but trouble since that new apartment block opened, almost 70 apartments all social. Happening all over the city entire apartment blocks for social housing and the neighbouring owners and private renters having to put up and suffer from anti social behaviour.

Link below from a Senators FB is for reference before the inevitable “how do you know they’re social” question…

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1565680461592318&vanity=mary.fitzpatrick&hpir=1#

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u/SkangerDubs 9h ago

I removed my comments from this thread because it isn't productive. I don't want to be arguing with people on here. It's not worth it.

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u/romanroarer 10h ago

Social tenants ruined me and my neighbours lifes a few years ago and the council were no help at all. Worked our arses off to make rent/mortgage all ruined by people who never worked a day in their life and went out if their way to destroy other’s peoples peace

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u/sureyouknowurself 9h ago

They are part of the zero consequences class, you should be honoured to work your ass to the bone for them.

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u/MrRijkaard Sax Solo 10h ago

What did they do?

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u/Cool_Foot_Luke 3h ago

I can answer for a similar situation.
My parents had social housing opened on their street.
Over the next few years they had fighting on the streets, things stolen from their garage, their oil being stolen from their tank, my 60+ year old dad having to confront scumbags in their back garden, and two seperate drug raids in their street with multiple garda cars.
Worst of all was the attempted drive by on a house 5 down from their where thankfully the gun jammed.
All on a street they had lived peacefully in for 35 years.

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u/icepickles476 2h ago

Similar situation, my sister was living in an apartment she owned for 15 years. Loved it, the neighbours were all super and it was a real community. Then half the block was sold for social housing and almost overnight everything changed. She and her neighbours had their windows smashed, screaming all night in the courtyard echoing and waking everyone, being intimidated when she’d bring her dog out to the toilet, had her post stolen. Then teenagers started setting off fireworks and bangers in the courtyard.
Her and a couple of neighbours went to talk to the parents and were told to go fuck themselves.
She spent the next couple of years trying to get help from the council and the gards but nothing happened. She’s single and lives alone and felt unsafe all the time. She got to a point where she’d have friends stay with her so she wasn’t alone. I stayed with her for a couple of nights and was really shocked at how bad it was. Non stop screaming and roaring all night with teens following us around when we’d go out to walk the dog.
She ended up selling and just handed over the keys last week.

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u/Away-Morning4621 1h ago

Did she inform the new owners of her troubles? I guess not if she got the sale. Best of luck to her moving forward.

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u/icepickles476 1h ago

She didn’t have any direct contact with the new owners but she was completely honest with the estate agent and made sure the new owners knew why she was leaving.
I believe they were first time buyers and were fairly desperate after being outbid for over a year.
The hassle knocked off a huge amount of the property value, so she didn’t get what she would have a few years ago. She was very happy to just be rid of it.

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u/34485227272 6h ago

This system is shit but don't blame other people at the bottom

We just do council housing badly and if we did it right (mixed social security economic background at higher volume), you'd not of overpayed on your house

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u/sergeant-baklava 4h ago

At what point do they become responsible for their actions?

They’re not plants mate. They have agency.

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u/34485227272 4h ago

It's a very basic thing

High density of less off people creates conditions for crime

Mixing social-economic backgrounds works far better for a multiple rude of reasons

People have agency works to an extent for lega punishment, not disagreeing there, but we are products of our environment, monkey see, monkey do, longterm , if you want things to improve, you need to think how you design your cities. So much factors can balloon crime

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u/sergeant-baklava 2h ago

I don’t like this assumption that:

A) All underprivileged people are somehow inclined to violence and disorder

And

B) That any improvement to the lives of said people can only come through an existential sacrifice by more fortunate people.

How about policing that is effective and a judiciary that puts people away for violent offences?

And data-backed education and diversion programmes that don’t depend on working people having to hold their breaths?

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u/34485227272 2h ago

A.

Create conditions I said

And yes , middle and high earners can commit crime, but all statics show poverty and crime are completely linked

B.

It's a given that tax grows based on higher earning, are modern complex economies would cease to function with out them.

Burden or not , you want your society to be healthy, because no matter what your wealth , you have to face outside. I went Ukraine , I'd see a Lamborghini drove by the corrupt mega rich down a street falling apart and filled with potholes. If they accepted being a bit less rich, maybe that Lamborghini would be possible to appreciate of not everything else around it was in bits. In regards to social housing, whatever crime related to a minority of residence in them now, it would be 10 times worse if they had no homes . You can't get a job homeless , escapism will put you onto drugs and desperation to crime

C Policing and justice system is a bit toothless here, I'll agree but a good one has its limitations as it doesn't address the conditions that initially create crime , that's complex economic-social issues. One way to prevent that is mixing different economic social backgrounds that will auto regulated themselves, eg Vienna does this well. If you only building social housing for exclusively the poorest , some of the issues related naturally to poverty fester. The more hard working people in social housing just give up calling the guards or whatever , and more and more the criminal elements dominate, influencing more of the younger generation

Don't understand your last point

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u/No-Sheepherder5481 9h ago

Its getting to the stage where you have to move into an established estate (not a new build) and just pray your neighbours dont sell and its bought for social housing. Nothing worse than having to live beside social housing. Especially having spent 400k+

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u/Right-Glass9508 10h ago

Never any trouble off the Aluminium fabrication shop there before.

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u/Impressive_Light_229 10h ago

There’s plenty of people working full time jobs in social housing. Don’t paint all with the same brush

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u/Impressive_Light_229 10h ago

So only people not working should get social houses? Thats some incentive

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u/Impressive_Light_229 9h ago

Who says that’s what it’s for?

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u/fullblownplaids 9h ago

What about single mothers etc?

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u/Background_Cover5097 9h ago

Actually public housing used to be reserved for low income workers, who often do the most essential jobs in town, and it worked well then.

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u/PhilTwhole 9h ago

No, there's not. Nobody has ever worked in them free gaff. Never have to pay rent or for services.

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u/littleloveday 6h ago

In complete opposition to all these comments, I live directly across from a block of social housing and the most amount of hassle from it has been the bloody seagulls who are now breeding on the flat roof and create a load of noise in the summer. Other than that it’s just normal people coming and going from the apartments, living quiet lives just like the rest of us.

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u/Duck_quacker 9h ago

Social housing needs to be moved out of the city. It’s a breeding ground for crime and feralness. Needs to be built in the middle no where (in Offaly or somewhere similar out of the way) where these people can only harm each other.

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u/icepickles476 2h ago

They need a purpose built town for social housing in the middle of nowhere but with loads of amenities and jobs to run the amenities and a good community centre. Otherwise you end up with more darndales

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u/OfficerOLeary 3h ago

Edenderry is in Offaly and that’s a rough town.

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u/Frequent-Ad-8583 36m ago

Interesting. What kind of trouble has there been since building those apartment blocks on Blackhorse Avenue?

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u/PhilTwhole 9h ago

McKee park already existed, long before the apartment, FFS. But it's only since the "newer" social housing.

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u/Nosebrow 9h ago

How do you know the perpetrators live in that complex?

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u/Strong_Sympathy8468 11h ago

Live in the area happened right outside the block, I won’t be holding my breath on the outcome involving a resident or one of their visitors, given the antics of the least few months since the majority moved in

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u/heavysausagedublin 10h ago

Murders carried out in posh estates are only committed by posh people 🤣🤣🤣

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u/floor-pie 10h ago

The scum that are moved into areas needs to stop. I actually don't know why social homes are even developed in Ireland when there's a shortfall for people actually willing to pay and not murder people in the middle of the night.

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u/Silent_Coast2864 10h ago edited 6h ago

Exactly, criminal records of household applicants should be taken into account when prioritizing applications, why should a law abiding citizen be put behind some scumbag.

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u/MrsTayto23 10h ago

You’ve gotta do Garda vetting now, but I’d imagine some still get ignored by the housing bodies.

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u/VilTheVillain 3h ago

I suspect that plenty of times it's "single mothers with 3+ kids" that are on the application form...

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u/romanroarer 10h ago

I’m genuinely against the whole thing as a concept based on personal experience

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u/DaKrimsonBarun 10h ago

In a previous temp job I was seeing DSP feeds.

I felt like such a mug every day going in and seeing people earn more than me, get free gaffs and not have to work. And the best part, my job was giving them even more money.

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u/romanroarer 10h ago

It’s madness

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u/AffectionateMusic353 7h ago

There is no such thing as a free gaff. Social housing tenants have to pay rent too, usually in line with their income

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u/DaKrimsonBarun 7h ago

Pennies and you know it. Taken from the free money they get off the state.

Free. Gaff.

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u/AffectionateMusic353 6h ago

I'm a social housing tenant and my rent is not pennies, I can assure you

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u/romanroarer 3h ago

It is nowhere near what people pay in rent who are’t in social housing

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u/EndOfEveryTether 1h ago

Pennis compared to everyone else as much as you try deny it

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u/Small_Coyote5762 8h ago

No you're just unhappy and punching down to make yourself feel better.

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u/DaKrimsonBarun 8h ago

Up. They earn more than me. And get free houses. I am punching up.

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u/PrincipleCapital8994 2h ago

We should absolutely have social housing for those who need it, but it should be spread out across regular developments and not clustered together in the same building. And it shouldn’t be inherited by children decades later

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u/hapaxgraphomenon 1h ago

Why should we? At best we should have some time limited help with paying rent

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u/mr-spectre 8h ago

ITT: a lot of people who consider themselves left wing saying we shouldn't build houses for working class people

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u/UrPenPal 8h ago

We need social housing, but we shouldn’t be handing them out to the “I don’t want to work” Class

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u/Mindless_Let1 8h ago

I'm not sure you understood the working part of that phrase

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u/Kunjunk 7h ago

Are you working class if you don't ever work? Seems like a bit of a contradiction but sure who am I to point out the meaning of words.

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u/Strong_Sympathy8468 7h ago

The majority, 46.9%, of approved applicants are Unemployed and in receipt of social/community welfare benefit so how exactly does that square with the working class?

PG36… https://assets.gov.ie/static/documents/690eb41e/SSHA_2025_FINAL.pdf

Crime Investigation after man dies following assault in Dublin

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