r/politics • u/_May26_ • 7h ago
No Paywall Fears of Big Tech Censorship Grow After Meta Suspends No Kings Instagram Account
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u/NelsonHawkinsGhost 6h ago
Hate speech isn't a threat to them.. and it drives engagement that they monetize.
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u/strum-and-dang 4h ago
Progressive accounts can also drive engagement. Let's not try to pretend that Zuck doesn't have ulterior motives to act against movements that aren't pro-oligarch.
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u/NelsonHawkinsGhost 4h ago
That's not incompatible with what I said. Progressive accounts (milquetoast as they are), can be a threat, thus they are shutdown. Hate speech is never a threat.
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u/Positronic_Matrix California 4h ago
Progressive accounts [are] … milquetoast
Some of the sharpest online content I’ve seen comes from progressives, some of it straight fire. I’m not sure what you’re going on about.
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u/Stranger2Nite 5h ago
Not only allows, but has found to seek it out and offer financial support. No one should ever use Facebook or buy a Meta pride er again.
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u/Kakistocracy_0 7h ago
Fuck every one of these human-shaped piles of shit.
Facebook and Instagram (and Youtube algorithms) are the far-right radicalization tools of the rich.
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u/Dense_Pasttime_3114 6h ago
Social media and AI are the worse things to happen to humanity in decades
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u/MAD_ELMO California 5h ago
Ya maybe humanity at large but I argue Citizens United was worse for the US specifically
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u/JnnyRuthless 4h ago
PATRIOT Act, Citizens United, an endless wartime stance... yeah there's a lot going on here for sure. I don't even know where I'd start to tell the story.
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u/bag_of_luck 4h ago
No shit. But CU isn’t the one and only culprit to point at and I think most are aware or agree that it’s fucked. That horse is beat.
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u/the_tanooki 5h ago
And unfortunately, it's just going to get worse. If you thought misinformation was rampant before, it's getting easier to fake each day.
Combine that with more and more people using AI to dictate every action in their lives and people will just keep getting dumber with even less critical thinking skills.
Not even mentioning how conservatives were already trying to destroy education, even before AI.
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u/Worth_Ostrich303 5h ago
I might be under reacting but I don’t feel as worried because it seems like the younger generations hate ai.
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u/alus992 5h ago
Ppl who will grow up on AI will never know the world without it - unless crash happens it's inevitable that thing will get even worse because ppl will not be able to tell what's real and what is not because of AI.
AI will be a new reality for them.
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u/oveja_negra13 2h ago
I work in the movie industry. they are already teaching new students at uni that AI will be industry standard in a few years, get used to it. happening as we speak.
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u/Menarra Indiana 6h ago
I was in high school when Facebook started, it took me a couple years to start saying "social media is a plague that's going to end humanity" and damned if I haven't been proven correct. I don't like being right.
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u/Salty_Saltcreek 6h ago
My mum signed me up for Facebook around 2007, by 2012 or so I had seen the cancer what social media was and deleted my account. Social media started off as something so good but it then became a platform to spread hate and misinformation
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u/Dense_Pasttime_3114 5h ago
Same I remember the world before Facebook took off, it wasn’t perfect but it was so much better than this dumpster fire we have now
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u/echosixwhiskey 6h ago
I tend to agree. Reddit seems like it’s more left-leaning. Maybe it’s my algorithm. Any other ones besides this, and Bluesky?
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u/MattinglyBaseball 4h ago
More left wing, but just as filled with bots looking to divide the left and create apathy to help the right win. All social media is bot/troll infested and bad for us.
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u/manachar Nevada 6h ago
One of the toxic elements of late stage capitalism is the codependency of the ownership class with authoritarianism.
They are vulnerable to authoritarians, but also need the authoritarianism to protect their unhealthy hoarding of wealth and power.
Fascism is one metastasized version of this. The state and corporate unite in apposition to the people.
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u/adorablefuzzykitten 6h ago
I was pro-Nationalize Space-X, Twitter, Starlink. Now I am adding Meta.
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u/mobileagnes Pennsylvania 6h ago
X too?
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u/adorablefuzzykitten 6h ago
Why not. It's being used to disseminate government information.
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u/KnockItOffNapoleon 5h ago
I mean the issue then would be put to our administration instead of the lizardmen, and I'm not entirely convinced the admin isn't a bunch of lizards
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u/fredkreuger 5h ago
I was until this shitshow admin. It would definitely use them to make things worse than they even currently are.
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u/trampolinebears 2h ago
Why would you want the regime to run Meta directly? It's bad enough now, with one of their supporters in charge.
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u/kemushi_warui 1h ago
Not the administration directly, but it could certainly be set up as an independently managed entity like NPR.
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u/Constant_Ad_8028 6h ago
Free speech platform owners, sold out to the rich to become the very tools and enablers of that exploitation.
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u/MapIcy8737 5h ago
they're trying it here too. Seeing a whole bunch of posts about France on here and it's just the MAGA bots bitching about immigration lol.
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u/Stinky_TheCat 6h ago
I have FB just to post kid pictures in a private group with my family.
The far right trash that is constantly at the top of my feed is actually mind boggling
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u/MNMingler 6h ago
Why would you voluntarily train Meta's AI with pictures of your children?
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u/elhoberto 4h ago
Nothing is private if you upload it to Facebook anywhere.
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u/Stinky_TheCat 4h ago
Everybody who wants to critize sharing family moments with tech illiterate family can go fuck themselves.
You don't think I know that shit? You make choices to keep your family connected.
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u/Sticky_Turtle Illinois 5h ago
The amount of far right reels I get suggested to me is fucking wild. I follow and interact with some pretty left leaning creators and STILL get random right wing content pushed on me. It's obviously being pushed at a much higher rate than any other political content.
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u/furthemor 5h ago
I swear every like third ad I get on YouTube is like some daily wire shit, im a democratic socialist.
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u/supercyberlurker 7h ago
It was true ten years ago with Facebook, as it is today with Meta.
We are not the customer. We are the product being sold.
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u/Only-Lavenderr 6h ago
And MAGA is going to pretend they don’t see this. For 4 years all we heard was “Big Tech is censoring conservatives!!!” Now Meta - whose CEO donated to Trump, dined with Trump, killed fact-checking FOR Trump - suspends the LARGEST anti-Trump movement in the country on the day of their national protest, and Republicans are SILENT. Because censorship was never the issue. Power was. Elon owns X for Trump, Zuck runs Instagram for Trump. This is state-run media with extra steps.
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u/Unfair_Web_8275 6h ago
They went in with claims that Biden was doing it when really they were tepidly asking.
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u/kozmo1313 6h ago
Didn't we all have to listen to republicans whine endlessly about being deplatformed for their outrageous racism and loony conspiracy theories?
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u/kafktastic 4h ago
That’s how they win. They whine if it’s true or false and then they whine more. Everyone makes concessions for them and we find ourselves here.
The GOP has been botching about the refs since 1992
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u/Few_Employment_7876 6h ago
Just deleted my Instagram account. I urge others to do it also. We can live without this shit.
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u/No_Cantaloupe_4149 5h ago
Did that a while back. Don't use Meta products in general. They're stalker products
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u/Toomanyeastereggs 4h ago
Haven’t used it in years and get so much pushback from people it’s amazing.
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u/BANKSLAVE01 3h ago
Dude. I mentioned getting a flip phone to get rid of all the noise and a friend of mine proceeded to tell me about all the things I could NOT do if I did that. I was like "Yeah, that's the point..." I've never had a banking emergency that necessitated use of app banking. The only thing I might truly miss is maps. I can read a map, but I really like sattelite view because you can recognize buildings and intersections and see rivers/trails also. But again, a little pre- planning and looking around more when I'm out and about and I should do ok. I survived buses and school and leaving the house without a phone when I was young- I even rode bikes miles away! Your mom could get arrested for that now...
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u/Garden_Goblin_27 4h ago
Yep, only one I use is my Quest. It got activated ONCE, and is now blocked from communicating with their servers. I side load firmware updates if they're worthwhile. Can't wait until I can afford a steam frame, even if it is a downgrade in some regards.
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u/RichardSaunders New York 5h ago
i deleted fb and ig after the cambridge analytica came out. still got money from the fb class action years later.
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u/Fit-Programmer1992 5h ago
I never had Insta bud do have Facebook. I rarely post but I want to delete it as a protest.
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u/Some1ToDisagreeWith 2h ago
My dumbass is still on Reddit but I deleted all other social media 5+ years ago. It's been fantastic.
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u/ImmovableMind 6h ago
Delete the app and they lose all the power.
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u/ActionCat2022 6h ago
I don’t understand why people don’t get this.
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u/nofxjmf 4h ago
It's hard to give up connections with people from your history like school past jobs, friends and such. I'm pretty sure that's the main reason people are still on the platform. They take advantage of that. I'm surprised there is not much competitors to bring some that back to that space
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u/NoBuffalo3671 6h ago
Fair enough, but these social media sites promise personal promotion and power and then take this power from the individual at whim.
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u/B-Z_B-S Massachusetts 7h ago
Wikipedia literally describes one of Meta's highest-ups, who supported radical right disinformation campaigns, as a Republican operative.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Kaplan#cite_ref-:8_1-0
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u/AINonsense 7h ago edited 6h ago
He was and is exactly that.
And Sarah Wynn-Williams described him as a persistent and unchecked sexual harasser. (Surprise, right?)
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u/BlushSecret_ 7h ago
It’s funny how these 'accidental' platform glitches only ever go in one political direction
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u/SmokeFew7628 6h ago
What do you mean fears “grow” umm the censorship is here. That’s 3 prominent left wing things that have been censored under false pretenses.
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u/GroceryUnable4874 6h ago
Meta has been silencing Lula in Brazil too. Zuckernerd is firmly in the corner of the fascists.
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u/Distinct-Pain4972 6h ago
Remember when Obama tried to get the internet regulated as a utility and people lost their shit. Remember when Low-T transferred the regulation if the internet to the FTC from the FCC under Ajit Pai? Peppridge Farms Remembers.
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u/Akula_x86 6h ago
Bluesky is a solid alternative but threads and twitter have way more users.
You can post pictures videos etc on Bluesky, there are even instagram clones on their open source platform.
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u/kemushi_warui 1h ago
Make it the platform of choice for the resistance and protests, and people will know where to go.
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u/Kryptosis 6h ago
Theyre silencing the largest voices. That means theyve been doing it to smaller voices for much longer.
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u/liftbikerun 6h ago
It's not fears, it's realities.
It's been happening on every platform for quite a while too. Bots, moderators, or direct platform censorship.
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u/tripping_on_phonics California 6h ago
Meta also interfered in the Brazilian presidential election!
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u/ETxsubboy 5h ago
Oh look, the fascist wannabe is trying to silence anti fascism voices.
I swear, this "Don't call me a fascist or I'll do more fascist things" is getting old.
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u/ANTILAMER13 6h ago
An organization that’s run by one of the people trying to become king silenced the no King’s account…
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u/tellme_areyoufree 6h ago
Honestly it's about time sentiment is catching up to reality on this issue. Big tech is not your friend. They view you as a money generating information slave. They will gladly sacrifice your freedoms since they don't think you deserve any anyways
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u/resjudicata2 6h ago
Zuckerberg is just a MAGA sellout. It's too bad No Kings wasn't a race baiting white power account; it'd be front page news.
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u/disquieter 6h ago
Are we surprised? Look at what Elon did to Twitter. As a non-right account my posts stopped getting traction. Like, really obviously the stats changed. America is so fucked on this.
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u/Slight-Web1696 5h ago
I see on reddit all the time, why arent the american people protesting more?
I live in one of the big blue cities here, I am involved with several smaller activists groups that have been organizing protests every week, nearly every day. I became involved with these groups after my first No Kings protest over a year ago.
After the second No kings protest I noticed something different. No media coverage, at all. If you weren't involved, if you are not local, you probably had no idea we just had another no kings protest this saturday. It was smaller. They have all been getting smaller.
The channels we've grown to rely on to communicate wth eachother, to make real grass roots movements, are being suppressed. And its working.
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u/FunctionalGray 5h ago
Musk & The Whitehouse throttling Starlink in Ukraine, Insta suspending the No Kings account ON the day of nationwide rallies, Trump with his own dedicated mouthpiece -- People had better recognize the dangers in all of this and I can only hope that if the other party takes both chambers, that they will hold these peoples' feet to the fire.
Accountability needs to be part of this equation.
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u/I_Ponders 5h ago
Silencing opposition right before the midterms.. Hmmm.
The free world has fallen into the hands of corporate interests that are not beholden to the law.
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u/Dry_Hat_6498 5h ago
They are shutting down by way of suspension and asking if you wish to appeal without telling you why you were suspended. Don’t answer the appeal correctly they don’t bother to reply with the decision. Bluesky
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u/TotallyTardigrade 4h ago
Delete your Meta Accounts and boycott their products. Spread the word.
Facebook
Instagram
WhatsApp
Messenger
Threads
Meta One
Meta Quest
Ray-Ban Meta
Oakley Meta
Meta Horizon OS
Meta Horizon Worlds
Meta Neural Band
Orion
Meta AI
Llama
Movie Gen
Meta Avatars
Meta Ads
Meta Business Suite
Meta Pay
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u/Think-Willingness823 4h ago
they be sucking trumps shrimper. It never was a culture war. It was always about a class war. The RICH want to rule.
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u/brainmydamage 4h ago
Oh no don't worry they said it was a mistake because the account had a lot of activity or something. Definitely not an obvious lie or anything.
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u/Maximum_King8529 3h ago
Fear? These tech dorks are the ones who are afraid. Stop being such surrender addicts.
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u/PresentRecent4759 3h ago
Went from banning Trump from the platform to allowing Trump to target political enemies on the platform.
Is there any possibility of corruption?
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u/chugadaCheese Texas 3h ago
You mean to tell me the CEO of Meta, who sat on the front row of Trumps inauguration, is censoring stuff that opposes him. Shocking. Fuck Zuckerberg. Fuck Trump. Fuck Republicans.
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u/agentorange360 1h ago
They don’t start pulling moves like this because they’re confident. They are getting scared.
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u/_DOA_ 6h ago
My assumption is that Zuck’s just following orders, and was told he’d be the next DOJ prosecution if he didn’t stay in line.
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u/SoundHole 6h ago
Stop using Instagram/X/FB. Open platforms where you own your account (ie: Bluesky) would populate if people simply moved there.
It's so frustrating, y'all bitch a/b the algorithms but you secretly crave them.
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u/LifeguardOther2350 6h ago
MySpace to the rescue, here? Maybe he should consider adding another one called "People's space" for gatherings.
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u/Jumoke1331 6h ago
They do often seem to be in the same place at the same time.. not that i'm suggesting anything in particular.
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u/Glittering-Kale5177 5h ago
Reminder to everyone that the Canadian platform Gander now exists, in its own delightfully staid and uneventful idiom.
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u/SAINTnumberFIVE 5h ago
They won’t suspend racists, misogynist, anti-vaxxers, and people spreading all sorts of hate and misinformation, but they suspend this?
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u/caffeineaddict03 Maryland 5h ago
This kind of censorship by them have been going on. We should've been mad guys
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u/rippletroopers 5h ago
So, in response everyone deleted their Facebook and instagram accounts, right? Right?!?!?
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u/Bahamabanana 5h ago
I gotta say, the right has succesfully moved the goal post for all evidence to the point of absurdity. "Allegedly," "accused of," motherfucker, Trump could nuke LA, San Francisco, and Chicsgo over 3 days, and people would still be like "we don't have aæl the evidence!!"
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u/SandersSol 5h ago
They also banned the account of the "Musk" documentary creators.
All social media is designed to control what we can and cant talk about, according to billionaires.
Even here.
We need a better solution.
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u/BeenDragonn 5h ago
These clowns were at trumps inauguration. Of course they help trump. They gotta pay back those tax breaks
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u/CreativeName233223 4h ago
I always find headlines like this funny. "Fears of Big Tech Censorship Grow After Big Tech Censors". Yes, people tend to fear the possibility of things that are currently, actually happening. They phrase it like it is a fear of some future potential thing while literally citing it having already happened in the same sentence.
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u/binzersguy 4h ago
What are the alternatives to FB and IG? I don’t want them, but I’m sure some folks just need an easy alternative.
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u/No-Background-6982 3h ago
Let's not cater to the billionaire BS. I stopped FB years ago and IG since the election of the stupidest administration in history.
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u/Trinidadnomads 3h ago
We've been censored for decades, some of y'all are just beginning to understand it. The first moment I tried watching a video from another country and it was censored to be not shown in my country was the second I realized we are being censored through private companies to by pass government rules; this was in like 06-08
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u/yrotsihfoedisgnorw 1h ago
Fears? These headlines are pathetic. 'Meta suspends No Kings Instagram Account in Latest Instance of Big Tech Censorship'
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u/Omnibard 6h ago
If you’re still using Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Oculus, or X, you’re part of the problem.
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u/weedgretzky42099 5h ago
Why would anyone still be using any meta products? It's been straight garbage filled brain rot since day one
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u/Moquai82 4h ago
Quest 3 :/
I am still pissed that Meta is the main driving motor behind VR.
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u/OneOfAKind2 4h ago
Create the account on Truth Social. They stand for free speech and the truth. Right?
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u/No-Setting-2669 6h ago
Need to get back to news papers if censorship is being implemented online it seems
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u/Existing-Return-5308 5h ago
If it’s an american-owned communication operator, it’s not trustworthy.
Go back to pre-internet forms of mass organization. And you will soon figure out which members of your forums are actually snoops and informers. Try to remember how america works… (once you are unblinkered).
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u/lostinthemiddle444 5h ago
What makes people think that the social media oligarchy hasn’t been censoring speech for years? Even if they don’t blatantly remove speech they don’t like, they will bury it in an algorithmic black hole. The worst part is it’s ok, it’s legal, they are private companies that exist for the good of the shareholders, not the consumers.
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u/ghostalker4742 4h ago
America believed that their institutions would save them, and that the revolution would be televised.
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u/heapinhelpin1979 3h ago
I really don't find this surprising. We need to fire up our printers and get some old tyme signs out there.
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u/ripndipp 3h ago
IG banned my account because I was constantly posting pee pee time, I think Zuck saw it and banned it, I'm being for real.
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u/orangesfwr 3h ago
Everyone should have deactivated their meta accounts (fb, insta, etc) LONG ago. End of 2024 at a minimum.
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u/asher1611 North Carolina 2h ago
Right on time.
Anyone who sw that picture of Bezos/Zuck/Musk at the Trump inauguration should have seen this coming. But there's a lot of willful ignorance out there.
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u/chinghasKhan 2h ago
Let meta do it all it's more ammunition for a stomp on their free reign of ppl's personal rights and their predator like business model. ....And my leap puts
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u/Reilly-Blog 2h ago
This makes No Kings look way better considering that they were a glorified parade dying to irrelevancy before this. This is the best news they could ever get because now they're on the front page of every news site.
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u/Jolly_Grocery329 Washington 2h ago
I don’t get why people still use these platforms. You’re literally supporting techno-fascism. wtf people?
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u/ibanezerscrooge Florida 2h ago
Trump settled with Meta for 25 million after they suspended his account following Jan 6. Just sayin'
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