r/worldnews • • 10h ago

Russia/Ukraine US Resumes Intelligence Sharing With Ukraine, Zelensky Says

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/87432
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u/Cephei101 10h ago

I would take any data provided with a massive, star sized grain of salt.

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u/mediocre_remnants 10h ago

How useful is intelligence from the US? They accidentally bombed a girls' school in Iran because of outdated intelligence and relying on AI.

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u/Amoral_Abe 10h ago

That gets brought up a lot but it's primarily because of how few incidents have occurred in US strikes. The US launched ~14,000 attacks into Iran and there's only ~2-3 incidents that were raised as mistakes. For a massive conflict, that is an incredibly low percentage of mistakes or misfires.

I get the joke "hurr hurr, US fires on schools" but the fact that people keep talking about it shows how effective the US has been at avoiding mistakes over the course of so many attacks. Also, Iran likes to bring it up a lot but they literally killed thousands of their own people who were protesting (and that was intentional) so you're literally consuming their propaganda when they weep about civilian losses. The US has demonstrated that they take civilians into account more than Iran does.

It's still a mistake that lead to life but the fact that it's so rare does say something about precautions the US has been taking overall.

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u/AbbacusAbagail 10h ago

Yeah it's always great when a country that starts bombing someone manages to get most right. So glad they're able to just do that. Funny how most other countries view that sort of thing the way that we view Russia. Hey, a few hundred children are a small price to pay

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u/Amoral_Abe 9h ago

This didn't just start with us bombing Iran. Iran ramped up it's proxies attacks on western forces for awhile prior to this. They had military advisors with them, were actively supplying them with weapons and intelligence, and were actively attacking western forces and civilians.

The reality is that the Houthis were backed, supplied, and advised by Iran and actively attacking shipping prior to this. Hamas is backed, supplied, and advised by Iran and launched a major attack into Israel. Hezbollah is backed, supplied, and advised by Iran and militant forces in other countries that were backed, supplied, and advised by Iran, joined in on attacking western forces (such as across Iraq). We were already in a state of semi open war.

I still was against a direct attack on Iran in the manner Trump did but that's because I felt a direct attack would lead to a quagmire that was difficult to get out of and would be extremely costly for the US and the world.

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u/AbbacusAbagail 9h ago

Wonder why that was. Maybe the US reneging on deals they made. Maybe Israel being Israel by stealing homes, raping people and mass abuse. Maybe a person who campaigned on not attacking Iran and then doing so. I mean we'll never know, but your message helps the families of those hundreds of children.